Furries and Vegetarianism

[Chime]

A random thought popped up in my head yesterday, we furries do respect and like animals. But do lots of furries go to the extent that they decide to become vegetarians? I'm not a vegetarian, but I do pay respect to the animals which gets turned into food. I was kinda wondering.. What do you people think? And what eating habits do you have? Is it connected to you being a furry you think? Could it have something to do with your fursona?

[VentKazemaru]

I'm kind of a picky eater, I refuse to eat anything from the ocean, and I don't like eating certain fruits and foods.(did you know people eat pork blood?) But other than that, I eat mostly meat, but I am getting sick of eating chicken lately. And it's part of my culture to eat rice with every meal.
I don't see what's wrong eating animals though, since we're just as the same as animals who eat meat to live as well, and we're not really adapted to an all green diet.


Also, although dogs are listed as carnivores, they'll pretty much eat anything if they're desperate enough.

[Mike Draconibus]

surprisingly, i have thought of this too; but i think a large majority of furries are still omnivores because it doesn't really matter (plus, in Concession and Furthia High, they still eat meat)

I am an omnivore because i could never give up meat, i looooooooooooooove a good steak

[Anonymous G]

I believe that the argument for vegetarianism is ultimately flawed. How is eating meat wrong? What makes us as a species morally responsible to abstain from a major food source aside from the very fact that we have morals in the first place? I feel no guilt for eating something that would be eaten in the wild anyways.

[Iseeyouthere]

I believe that the argument for vegetarianism is ultimately flawed. How is eating meat wrong? What makes us as a species morally responsible to abstain from a major food source aside from the very fact that we have morals in the first place? I feel no guilt for eating something that would be eaten in the wild anyways.

Some people become vegetarians because they don't like the taste of meat. Some cultures don't eat meat. Its not whether its right or wrong, but what people want to eat and their beliefs. Unless you mean those ones who yell "Eating meat is wrong! Don't eat meat!" to others and trying to force their opinions, which in that case, they are complete nutcases who need to relax.

As for me, I like meat. Although, I can't seem to enjoy it without a salad. Its a good balance.

[Anonymous G]

I believe that the argument for vegetarianism is ultimately flawed. How is eating meat wrong? What makes us as a species morally responsible to abstain from a major food source aside from the very fact that we have morals in the first place? I feel no guilt for eating something that would be eaten in the wild anyways.

Some people become vegetarians because they don't like the taste of meat. Some cultures don't eat meat. Its not whether its right or wrong, but what people want to eat and their beliefs. Unless you mean those ones who yell "Eating meat is wrong! Don't eat meat!" to others and trying to force their opinions, which in that case, they are complete nutcases who need to relax.

As for me, I like meat. Although, I can't seem to enjoy it without a salad. Its a good balance.

I should have clarified, yes. No one should push that kind of attitude, or hold others in contempt for eating something that they consider "wrong".

[arinot]

I believe that the argument for vegetarianism is ultimately flawed. How is eating meat wrong? What makes us as a species morally responsible to abstain from a major food source aside from the very fact that we have morals in the first place? I feel no guilt for eating something that would be eaten in the wild anyways.

Some people become vegetarians because they don't like the taste of meat. Some cultures don't eat meat. Its not whether its right or wrong, but what people want to eat and their beliefs. Unless you mean those ones who yell "Eating meat is wrong! Don't eat meat!" to others and trying to force their opinions, which in that case, they are complete nutcases who need to relax.

As for me, I like meat. Although, I can't seem to enjoy it without a salad. Its a good balance.

I should have clarified, yes. No one should push that kind of attitude, or hold others in contempt for eating something that they consider "wrong".

I concur on G's statement and Icy's statement.
I must say that I find the PETA vegans annoying.
That is all.

Oh, and I am an omnivore... though I lean on the carnivore side... Meat... goooood....

[Scramjet]

I'm kind of a picky eater, I refuse to eat anything from the ocean

YOU... Are now my mortal enemy!

I concur on G's statement and Icy's statement.
I must say that I find the PETA vegans annoying.
That is all.

^ This. If anything, those PETA people make me want to eat more meat just to piss them off.

As for me, I'm an omnivore. I have no hesitation in eating almost all meat and veg. I will make one exception though: I will not eat shark (often called 'Flake' in fish and chip shops). I just love sharkies too much. Apart from that, I'm cool with eating dead animals and I loooovvvvvveeeee seafood!

Plus, if you want to go on the basis that furries are vegetarians, I'd still be a omnivore anyway considering my fursona is a dog. (as Vent said, they'll eat almost anything. They're like the vacuum cleaners of the land )

[VentKazemaru]

I'm kind of a picky eater, I refuse to eat anything from the ocean

YOU... Are now my mortal enemy!

You would hate eating fish too if you knew what my parents eat!

[Anonymous G]

I'm kind of a picky eater, I refuse to eat anything from the ocean

YOU... Are now my mortal enemy!

You would hate eating fish too if you knew what my parents eat!

My whole family refuses to eat seafood. I'm not too keen on it myself, but if someone really wanted me to try it, I would.

[Iseeyouthere]

Reminds me of a quote that Carl Barron said. He was apporached by one of those hardcore 'repect nature, don't eat meat' type people and he had meat on his sandwich. The Hardcore guy says "What you got on the sandwich?".
Carl Barron replies "Dolphin meat."

Got rid of the hardcore guy in an instance.

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Also, fish isn't my favourite either... Its rather bland if you ask me. And its hard to eat... keep falling apart.

[Chime]

Some people seems to think I'm for vegetarianism, but I'm an omnivore. I was just curious to see what other people think. And oh, I've heard a little about PETA, but only that they help animals, not that they are vegetarians.

It makes me think about that South Park episode when Stan comes to a kind of PETA camp, where they live with the animals, and do like them. And that they marry them and gets kids.. *shudder*

[Rachel]

I'm a minimalist, I eat as little meat as I need to survive with a bigger emphasis on vegetables, nuts and non-meat produce. The argument that eatting meat is morally wrong, isn't because such a dish is sinful or bad for you, it's because Animals like us can suffer and feel pain, you know we still have battery hens? Chickens kept in squalid conditions and more frequently suffer health problems, than their free range counter parts. As well as suffocation is one of the painful ways to die, and that's basically what we're doing once we hoist the nets up onto the ship with fish, .. oh and there's also the problem in the North Sea that we're depleting the Fish Stock in the sea.

The thing is, that We are pretty much the only Species on this planet to invent agriculture, we don't "need" to hunt and gather, because we've become self-sufficient, we can grow food which can sustain us, that the idea of necessity of hunting/herding for meat is pretty flawed itself, although animals can provide other uses for themselves than needless slaughter, Hens provide Eggs, Sheep provide Wool, Cows & Goats; milk, Pigs do something with truffles, Horses are used in Races.

As for a final note: PETA should not considered an organisation in favour of anything, but for the mocking of minorities that can't fight back (Such as the Obese, Transsexuals etc have been the targets of odd campaigns, although I didn't see the connection between Transsexuals and Fur Trade...Because there is none.). They are trolls, one step short of Terrorists.

Odd note: I'm also have some issues -some very specific- with vegatables, but it's not about cruelty but more to do with economics and sustainability, in short I'm far from Vegatarianism either as I am from Carnivore*, but I'm more of an ethical consumer, Food has to much up to a set of standards and specifications. I'm like Bruce; "THIS BURGER HASN'T BEEN COOKED TO MY SPECIFICATIONS!" except more to do with ethical and economic concerns.

*It's actually quite accurate that Omnivore is "Eats anything" because well there's a variety of things to add in your diet. I'm keen on Jake's nuts.

[Anonymous G]

I'm a minimalist, I eat as little meat as I need to survive with a bigger emphasis on vegetables, nuts and non-meat produce. The argument that eatting meat is morally wrong, isn't because such a dish is sinful or bad for you, it's because Animals like us can suffer and feel pain, you know we still have battery hens? Chickens kept in squalid conditions and more frequently suffer health problems, than their free range counter parts. As well as suffocation is one of the painful ways to die, and that's basically what we're doing once we hoist the nets up onto the ship with fish, .. oh and there's also the problem in the North Sea that we're depleting the Fish Stock in the sea.

The thing is, that We are pretty much the only Species on this planet to invent agriculture, we don't "need" to hunt and gather, because we've become self-sufficient, we can grow food which can sustain us, that the idea of necessity of hunting/herding for meat is pretty flawed itself, although animals can provide other uses for themselves than needless slaughter, Hens provide Eggs, Sheep provide Wool, Cows & Goats; milk, Pigs do something with truffles, Horses are used in Races.

As for a final note: PETA should not considered an organisation in favour of anything, but for the mocking of minorities that can't fight back (Such as the Obese, Transsexuals etc have been the targets of odd campaigns, although I didn't see the connection between Transsexuals and Fur Trade...Because there is none.). They are trolls, one step short of Terrorists.

Odd note: I'm also have some issues -some very specific- with vegatables, but it's not about cruelty but more to do with economics and sustainability, in short I'm far from Vegatarianism either as I am from Carnivore*, but I'm more of an ethical consumer, Food has to much up to a set of standards and specifications. I'm like Bruce; "THIS BURGER HASN'T BEEN COOKED TO MY SPECIFICATIONS!" except more to do with ethical and economic concerns.

*It's actually quite accurate that Omnivore is "Eats anything" because well there's a variety of things to add in your diet. I'm keen on Jake's nuts.

There's a little problem with relying on only agriculture to sustain a population of this size, however, as over-farming will eventually destroy the soil, turning it into a desert. I'd take animal suffering over ecological disaster any day, though the over-fishing is becoming a huge problem in many parts.

[Rachel]

There's a little problem with relying on only agriculture to sustain a population of this size, however, as over-farming will eventually destroy the soil, turning it into a desert. I'd take animal suffering over ecological disaster any day, though the over-fishing is becoming a huge problem in many parts.

A few points:
1. I advocate minimal meat diets, to prevent over-reliance on farming, as to avoid overworking the soil, and so we still have some use for animals that have already been domesticated.
2. We have methods of preventing the soil undergoing desertification; Fertilisers are the primarily response for most civilised farming methods, while shifting cultivation simply move on and let Nature repair it. There are other issues concerning industrial farming, which is why I'm not explicitly for Strict vegetarianism -as you've pointed out it'll cause an ecological disaster-, we have advanced and benefited from the green revolution to make a minimalist meat diet work but there are problems faced with different climates, such as soil erosion; Oklahoma (Known as "The dustbowl of America") to me, would be an ideal candiate to try a less-meat diet, given it's ability for commercial grain farming, and it's ability to 'solve' the soil erosion problem; primarily from dust storms which take the most fertile soil; the top layer.
3. A recent study reported by the BBC supports that eatting less than five pounds of meat reduces ones risk of developing further problems:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2838083.stm
4.Talking about ecological disaster; Is also advised of farming less animals to produce less green house gases: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7600005.stm
5. Population is a bit of problem, ideally the time for using an all out strict vegetarian* farming was discussed to have been twenty years ago, given the population has increased exponetially since then, it's more problematic unless we adopt something like China's "one child policy" but that has isn't a quick fix, the other side of the problem isn't the population it's self, but the densities of population across the world ie we're not evenly spaced out, while there's higher number of people in cities where there's less land to farm.

*Keep in mind, I'm advocating eatting "Less" meat, rather than completely abolishing it. Soya and nuts as delicious** they are, didn't stop me becoming anaemic.

**Read as: Complete lie, I hate the taste of most nuts, unless their baked into tasty cookies. -Tofu which I'm still not sure is to be eaten hot or cold, is abyssal for it's taste x.x