Beliefs Spectrum

[Reverberation]

I've yet ta hear anyone mention the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I can't tell if that's a surprise or not.

/POUNCE

Church of the Flyin' Spaghetti Monster over here!

Hehe, I knew you'd be the first ta say so after I posted? XD

What, am I invisible or something? My text is though

[Rachel]

Believe it or not, im mormon.

I've never met someone that claims to be Mormon before, however, do you really believe underwear has magical powers?
Also how many wives will you have, also if the bonds of marriage can't be broken and last for all eternity what if some of your wives go to Hell? Do they get a free pass, or can you visit them for those hawt, sensational encounters? ^_^ Unless of course you're the (One of the) Wife, do you feel even as though you share your husband that he still manages to met your emotional needs (I'm incredibly selfish when it comes to relationships. )? and -if your a wife- Are you familiar with the term Stockholm syndrome (This is fairly common or believed to be common in Poly-relationships.)?

[arinot]

well, as far as I remember from Mormonism...
I thought what happened is that your soul ascends to godhood and you create your own universe upon proving yourself to god jesus and Joseph Smith.

and that all people of other colors got different colored skin for unpurity upon having their spirit sent to a corporal body or something...

I don't remember much, but I don't think that all polygamous families exhibit stockholm syndrom as they aren't always put their against their will...
I guess...

[Rachel]

I don't know, I remember a testimony made by a Woman in such a relationship, where she felt compelled to love her husband but didn't want to share him with three other women, feeling that she'd be devalued emotionally. But statistically and logically speaking not all polygynous families need to have members exhibit stockholm syndrome, but just a statistically significant amount, that has a standard deviation more than the general population; ie we need to compare it to hetronormalitive marriage as that's often used as the 'norm'.

But the key word I'm focusing in on what you've said is that "they aren't always put their against their will" which does make me wonder if it's similar to an arranged marriage. >.<; (Which then reminds me of some articles I've read on 'bride-burning'. >.< Gahhh!) Which does have a few negative aspects, as rarely is an arrangement marriage depicted with admirable feelings when shown in media. (Which is the only time I've seen an arranged marriage take place. Also Polygamy in any form, in the UK, I'm sure is illegal. But I'll check to see what legislation actually says.)

EDIT: I must state, that from what I know and understand, Bride-burning has nothing to do with Mormonism! >.<

[arinot]

erm...
Bride burning has to do with Hinduism, the idea that a woman is loyal to her man and if he dies she must follow him to the afterlife due to said loyalty...
it's banned now, but you get the idea

and many marriages are arranged, even if doesn't appear that way at first. Parents will often introduce a man and woman together in the same way breeders do. A breeder puts em' together and hopes for mating and crap
parents sometimes do the samething

Then there are straight out arranged marriages... that ain't fun either, but the forced marriage and sense of respect to parents wishes (in some cultures) lead the bond to be much stronger than what one would expect.

[Rachel]

Bride burning has to do with Hinduism, the idea that a woman is loyal to her man and if he dies she must follow him to the afterlife due to said loyalty...
it's banned now, but you get the idea

Uh, that's not what I heard, from what I understand it's that if the woman's family can't pay the Husband's family a dowry after marriage then she ends up with third degree burns and/or killed. Due to giving of financial wealth or materials of value indict prosperity, and the lack of such gifts shows they are poor or trying to leech off funds from the Husbands family.

and many marriages are arranged, even if doesn't appear that way at first. Parents will often introduce a man and woman together in the same way breeders do. A breeder puts em' together and hopes for mating and crap
parents sometimes do the samething

Many is a weasel word, that doesn't indicate how many are actually arranged. But there is a slight difference in what we're discussing. Anyone can set up someone else and hopes for a relationship, Parents, friends and associates can do this in the motivation of making either a scene or someone's life less dull. An Arranged marriage is precisely that, someone who has been arranged to be married, so opposed to someone's mother dropping hints that Bob at the local corner store is a really good guy and single, no, an arranged marriage is when our familes and Bob's family decide we should marry him. (Obviously not 'we' as in us together with bob, but either one of us.)

Then there are straight out arranged marriages... that ain't fun either, but the forced marriage and sense of respect to parents wishes (in some cultures) lead the bond to be much stronger than what one would expect.

Yeah, as I've stated there are differences in "arrangements." But the marriage would only be as good as the people arranging it, and they'd be better if they knew how to match a suitor with their daughter or son with someone that they know is compatible (Which would probably require an initial understanding of Psychology and behaviour, or a combination of other factors and variables, such as closeness of family ties, My parents had a different view of what I should have been but I'd imagine it'd be closer for others to grow into their parent's image of what they want.) if however it is a poor match, then again, I suspect Stockholm syndrome would be able to come into effect but I'm not sure of the rate of incidence that would occur, most likely in any case wether arranged marriage or not, it'll be dysfunctional to say at least and in the Transactional Analysis terms "Destructive" to those playing.

[arinot]

other stuff I'll agree with...

but the first thing about bride burning I know for a fact:
A woman is supposed to follow her husband

and so she burns as he is cremated. (Hinduism... It was an old practice in Hindusim known as Sati... current bride burning probably came from this practice)

[Rachel]

A woman is supposed to follow her husband

and so she burns as he is cremated. (Hinduism... It was an old practice in Hindusim known as Sati... current bride burning probably came from this practice)

[url]
http://journals.lww.com/burncareresearc ... dia.5.aspx[/url]
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/52a/033.html
This Journal article and the news article, would suggest Bride Burning is carried out by a form of cold-hearted economics related to dowry, that if they can't pay, well, we've implied the details. While searching for the UNICEF article, I've found this on there main website that's implies the same idea and has the offical statistic of 5'000 women killed 'due to insufficient dowry': http://www.unicef.org/newsline/00pr17.htm (Ninth paragraph, and further down for the statistic.)

[arinot]

... That's what I said.,. I wasn't contradicting you...

That modern bride burning is based off the idea of sati...

A part of culture corrupted by private interests creating an issue of wrongful bride burning

I am of bangladeish origin, and that's just the start
women often get acid thrown on their faces for rejecting a man's advances.
Abuse is pretty prevalent
and women are expected to listen an do as told by their husbands

it isn't everyone, but it's prevalent in the villages

[Popolo]

... That's what I said.,. I wasn't contradicting you...

That modern bride burning is based off the idea of sati...

A part of culture corrupted by private interests creating an issue of wrongful bride burning

I am of bangladeish origin, and that's just the start
women often get acid thrown on their faces for rejecting a man's advances.
Abuse is pretty prevalent
and women are expected to listen an do as told by their husbands

it isn't everyone, but it's prevalent in the villages

I thought the sati was banned! In like, the 1600's or something?

[Rachel]

... That's what I said.,. I wasn't contradicting you...

Then there was a slight bit of misunderstandment on my part. Nevermind.

[arinot]

Marijuanna is banned.
People still do Marijuanna...

Sati is still around in some villages. The law isn't everywhere ya' know... specailly in the village. In the village the law is eye for an eye.
you run someone over by accident, they will chop you up with machetes.
Pretty damn brutal... they did it to a bus driver and burnt the bus...
they did move the passengers off it, I'll give the villagers that...

and yes. The British East India Company (aka. the company raj) did ban the practice...
but it still occurred.

[Matrix]

Umm...I'm deist, I guess.
So...Yeah.

[ratdeathtrap]

Umm...I'm deist, I guess.
So...Yeah.

What's a deist?

[Matrix]

Belief in a god. Not like the one god to rule them all or anything, just that there is some kind of god.
I know there's a lot more to it, but that's all I believe in.
Mainly because I dabbled a bit in atheism, but then realized that it's too nihilistic.
And (Like I said in the Concession Forum) I wanted to lay down a beating to some of them.