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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:38 pm

Aires...I got a question...what exactly, does 'Vampire Vision' entail...? I was leaning on probably infrared spectrum, maybe some enhanced night vision, being blood seekers an all...neither of which give an advantage here...I'm not trying to pick at ya dude, but I noted a couple posts ago when the soldiers appeared, she has no heat signature, and there's not gonna be any auditory cues to lead her to the vixen (she's basically part of the blizzard), let alone pin point her in the blizzard, 3 was able because of the echolocation, something I'm a little iffy on but I don't know the acustic properties of snow or a blizzard, in some situations it echos like mad, others it horribly muffles, I couldn't make a call so I just went with it since it worked pretty well...I can work with what ya got, but it honestly bugs the hell outta me just how vague 'vampire vision' is...
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby aires163 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:08 pm

How the hell have all these important details been slipping my mind. It is infrared vision and thank you for explaining why that wouldn't work in this situation. Now how do I logically explain Alice finding her way back? Hmm...wait a second. The soldier that's fighting with her should give off a heat signature right? If so then I just answered my own question. I do appreciate that you are being so patient with all of my stupid mistakes and your even pointing them out for me. Im going to go try to fix this now.

EDIT: I think I got it this time. I also decided for Alice not to get involved because I couldent make the concept of her finding her way back to the alleyway out of sheer luck not sound stupid.
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:29 pm

It actually doesn't look too bad anymore there aires, sorry about not being able to get her immediately back in on that fight, it looks and works alot better now as well as gives me the space I needed to pull her strings the way I had been hoping to so I can work to get this arc finished up and onto the next

also, where the hell'd everyone go? I'd kinda set black up there with a fight and he just obediently sat down, my subtle message appearantly a bit too subtle, but it won't matter much longer, i may drag the fight sequence out a bit longer if necessary, but I'm hoping to make it something of a short fight since it's just masses of baddies down in the lower levels and that can get pretty dry pretty quick. I still need at least shade to post before I can continue, there's just too many interactions going at the moment to make a post with a single reaction in it, soon as he posts I'll get on top of another reply...I wish I knew what had happened to the rest of the players.
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby aires163 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:45 pm

I know right? Its depressing how everyone so suddenly disappears. I hope they come back soon so we can carry on. Perhaps after awhile we should start a new one and call it episode 2? That way it might be more appealing for new players.
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:48 am

Once this Arc ends Im gonna try an set it up with a section that either has some kinda time span seperating the two, or some kinda big event that creates a chance for more to enter if they want...but for the record, it's your turn to write the arc XP or...someone else at least XP I'll let ya guys know whats happening with what I have planned for events after the finale of this Arc.

I'm hoping I can see a post up there soon from Shade so I can get to work on mine, I'd like to See Blacks up there as well, but I'm not sure whats up with him, I saw him on earlier, but he just posted to the random room and left...
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Black Garuga » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:50 pm

Sorry, I was a little conused with what was happening in the facility, so I decided not to post anything, from all that I was concerned, there were two figures standing motionless, not letting anyone get by, and Black is reading a magazine about science, so therefore I decided to not do anything :/

Also Buzz, I saw that you stood up to that douche in the newby lobby, bravo!
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby aires163 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:13 pm

Black Garuga wrote:Sorry, I was a little conused with what was happening in the facility, so I decided not to post anything, from all that I was concerned, there were two figures standing motionless, not letting anyone get by, and Black is reading a magazine about science, so therefore I decided to not do anything :/

Also Buzz, I saw that you stood up to that douche in the newby lobby, bravo!


Speaking of which, there is no fucking way that cunt is getting into any of the RP's around here. I hope he does us all a favor and decides to G-T-F-O!!! Seriously I know elementary school children who are more mature than that self proclaiming bigot.
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:02 pm

Heres ta hopin eh? Looks like he's trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and get back in, so keep your wits about ya an tell him 'politely' leave if he starts nosing around the rp threads, I'm washing my hands of him so if he starts shit, it's going strait to the top of he can't take the hint that he's not welcome among the 'noble rpers'

Anyway, that shit aside, apologies about takin so long...kinda having a bit of trouble with how I wanna run these last couple of kings posts in terms of the figh happening far below...and black, if youre just gonna sit there and read, I'm probably not gonna post anything further for ya till something happens if ya don't interact, just a heads up, nothing against ya, but I already set ya up and ya kinda just sat down...yeah...anyway, hoping it'll be done at the latest sometime this weekend, otherwise I have a duty day off on monday that I'm gonna be working a lot of posting stuffz
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Snowshoe » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:35 pm

Hope I'm not too late to the party here;
Name: Kage
Age: na
Gender: male
Power: Mental Shade. Kage has the power to cause severe hallucinations, which can affect multiple or single enemies. Within these hallucinations, the affected character can still move about and interact with the real world, which may or may not be visible to them. His visions are most effective on someone who is asleep. He is able to physically project himself into a dream or vision, thereby becoming able to directly harm the affected person while they're asleep. He in turn becomes extremely vulnerable to the will of the person he is affecting. His powers are significantly weakened when someone is awake, but he is still able to twist their perception of reality. In order to affect a fully concious being, he must be physically present himself.
Species: varies when in a dream, I'd like to keep his true form hidden for at least a while longer.
Appearance: usually manifests himself as a black vapor, an image he can project anywhere. He can be visible in this form to multiple people, or only one at a time.
Personality: a chaotic evil, Kage was born in the late 1400's, where he found knowledge he should not have. Unaware of the harm he was causing, began to study what he had found, eventually growing into a powerful mentalist. He was sealed away in 1600 in a series of vaults underneath the city, which has grown today to a size much larger than before. He has been recently awakened by the sudden increase in Telekenetic activity near him, with a burning hatred for the man who sealed him away, and a desire to burn the city that has held him for so long to the ground.

Sorry his background isn't terribly specific, but I don't view it as terribly relevant to what I plan to do with him. The man who sealed Kage will come in later though.

Extras-
A bit to know about how his power works: he cannot be killed or sealed unless his physical body is found, which is hidden in a catacomb-like complex underneath the city. The place has grown into a literal nightmare over Kage's years of imprisonment, and he has been storing the nightmares of those in the city above him within the catacombs. Just for reference, in case anybody wants to find his physical body soon, the place would drive whoever went in there mad. It's filled with 400 years of the nightmares of thousands of people, and Kage becomes much more powerful once someone gets within about 500 feet of him.
Kage projects himself anywhere he wants to make his presence known. His projection must be nearby for him to be able to influence somebody, and it can be destroyed by normal means. It's not particularly remarkable in and of itself, and Kage has to put together another one before he can project again. Just to be clear, even if someone is being gripped by him, he cannot force them into a specific action, such as causing a pyro to burn a house down shooting flames at wraiths.
That any good at all? I'm an rp noob, but I like to think I can write fairly well. If he makes it through and is voted in, I need a night transition for him to come out. If someone wanted to put a character up for him to influence, that would be wonderful. I could have some fun with Kage and jack ;)
Further clarification: If kage is directly influencing somebody in a dream (is able to physically hurt them), he'll be forced to manifest as his actual form instead of with a projection. To break a dream, the dreamer needs to either kill Kage or his projection. I'll stick more about him up if he makes it through. I suppose I'm sort of using his lack of backstory to learn how to do this whole rp thing, all I have to write is his action. And Kage can get away with sort of showing up in the middle of a fight.

I need to work on my wall o' text problem. Opinions?
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Black Garuga » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:37 pm

hmmm...sounds positively delightfully evil!
A powerful foe to combat, I like it, but, I'm not sure where all the other RPers stand on this comment but, that might be a little too powerful? I mean, hallucinations yes, but catacombs laden with over 400 years of people's nightmares? too much?

Oh well, sounds like an interesting character, I shall look forward to sparring with him >: 3
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Snowshoe » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:50 pm

The catacombs are to... Discourage immediate finding of his physical self. Someone who goes in there (assuming they find it), is going to need someone else to drag them out, probably another darker character. I plan on delightful things happening related to Kage, and I view him as an excellent source for character development. I do plan on providing a way to him, eventually, but for now he's pretty much unreachable. His shades are pretty easy to kill, but people will need to cooperate to do it. A pyro isn't going to have much luck killing something made of smoke.
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:56 pm

Great design, it really is quite the interesting character...but, it's verging on far too much.

Couple reasons really, I do like the mentalist bit, but locked away for 400 years, dwelling and building power, and only operating from down there where no one know he even exists, so what's to even attempt to destroy let Have any back and forth with, it gives too much of an immortal untouchable in my opinion

And the thing is, the whole powers thing, while I like the old evil idea, kinda gives me a Dracula vibe more than a super hero/villan vibe, the whole source was the chemicals that created the supers, even if some were exposed a bit prior to the 'spill' it's pretty much all revolved around that kinda idea, the old monster just feels too out of place

And for being what equates to a player character, frankly, I find it too much power for a player character to have, story characters might be over the top powerful baddies, but they're plot based and have every thing laid out already on what's going to happen, I mean aside from king, his only real threat might be either jazz or sasha, no one else evven stands a chance against an untouchable that can kill them in their dreams like Freddy Kruger

The whole deal with the catacombs just adds to it all the more of givin him the untouchable villan, no one even knows that that place is down there to even start to look for him, making him a literal specter, and on top of all of it, there's really not much purpose to the characters going in there as it stands, they've nothing to gain, and. Illians have no purpose because presumably, he's on the side of evil, and they'd be the only ones dark enough to survive going in

My vote, is a rework, the concept is good, it's just too much
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Snowshoe » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:30 pm

He hasn't been building power for 400 years, I'm sorry, I should've explained this better. He's been sealed down there. He still absorbs the negative energy from nightmares, but he has nowhere to put it, so it's spilled over into the catacombs. I'm thinking That whatever's brewing at the plant will spill out enough power to wake him up. Physically, he is untouchable, but he can be beaten back by supers or psychics, and locked away for a time.
I should probably explain the dream bit better. It's kind of like Freddy, except Kage is much, much more vulnerable and can't do nearly as much. He won't put himself into somebody's dream unless he has a strong desire to see them dead. True, he wants everyone dead, but this is centered around people he sees as a threat, because Kage has built up that feeling you describe as 'untouchable', and he enjoys it. He'll limit himself to causing freakish nightmares usually. But when he finally DOES put himself in a dream, his powers are weak. He is still limited to his real powers. He can distort their perception of the dream, but he must physically himself touch them to harm them. He can't use a shade, he can't drop them in a pit, he has to physically punch someone in the face. He can't use a dream-knife or claw or anything like that, he has himself. The super he's attacking, meanwhile, can fling fireballs at him, or freeze him, or whack his head off, and that will kill him. His strength is almost purely mental. His advantages while he is not inside someone's dream are still strong. So he naturally presents more of a challenge to characters who have things to be guilty about.
Villains and supers have an incentive to try and kill him, because he literally wants to burn the city to the ground. He doesn't want to work for anyone. He might cooperate, temporarily, but will ultimately try to kill them.
I do agree that other than to kill him though, not much reason exists to visit the catacombs. (other than stopping the sudden plague of horrific nightmares) perhaps whoever sealed him down there centuries ago left something else down there too, that the villains have an incentive to grab, and the heroes have an incentive to stop them? Maybe the source of kages powers?
Edit--
I do agree that filling the catacombs with horrors is a bit much, but physical proximity to Kage will have a similar effect. Ill remove that detail, so if Kage leaves the catacombs become safe, But closeness to Kage amplifies his powers.
Somebody might beat Kage in a dream. That someone might find out where the catacombs are.
Sealed is essentially the same as passed out for Kage.
I would love to have his powers developed by the spill, but I'm having trouble thinking up a reason for a teenager to want to kill everyone, and I want him to have that ancient evil intelligence sort of feel. I think an advantage of the four hundred years thing is that somebody is probably a descendant of whoever locked Kage away in the first place, possibly king? Or I could just pull the sealer back in.
On an unrelated note, is this city supposed to be in America or Europe? I see phrases like 'bloody', that'd imply Britain, but people are dialing 911.

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If it would make Everyone feel better, I can pm aires what I plan on doing with Kage. I'd rather avoid making it public, because I want the supers to have fun finding out about him (and the things I haven't told you about him). I'll write up my intro, and a general plot, and pm it to him. I can change things about kage's background, such as the catacombs, and I think ive worked out a reason for him having gone batshit insane. Anything else I need to change?
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Buzzwolf » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:09 am

He may not have been 'gaining power', but in a way he kinda was with the 'absorbing nightmares' thing. like I'm saying, it's not a bad character design, but it's not suiting to a player character, he fills the roll of supervillan plot character more than anything else. but even then, he's too perfect, hes untouchable, and no one knows about him to even try connecting him to the 'plague of nightmares' and shit. it makes it a very hard character to RP with, even as villan or otherwise, he can literally be anywhere at any time, meaning there's no planning, or movement without his knowing, and meaning there's literally nothing anyone can do against him.

Granted he's not pulling the Freddy Kruger bit killing in their sleep, but he's practically on an omnipotent level, being anywhere in any dream, even if it's only watching an shit. and like you said, normal 'powers' have no effect on him, meaning the only ones that can even touch him are the mentalists, two of which are villians, the third of which, is a neutral Good. the only time they do work, is the single attempt they get when they finally find him in order to kill him.

If you need a reason for him to be evil, wanting to kill everyone and whatnot, look at blacks character, he pretty much hates everyone...though he kinda turned into a 'harmless baddie' in the process...just for the love of god, don't go emo character...I despise emo characters like no other, they're not only useless 80% of the time, but just abnoxious as hell in the process...

I just don't want to see this powerful character get locked away where no one can touch him, but he can reach out and smack the other characters around, it jsut feels too unbelivable and out of place with the RP

In terms of King being the one to seal him away (that's what I think I was getting from that, or that he's the desendant) King is practically pure evil, not one who's gonna seal away another, I dunno how it might work for him to be an ancestor...King also has some heavy motives going on in the background that him filling that role as well might interfere with...
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Re: Of Heros and villains (OOC)

Postby Black Garuga » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:42 pm

SnowShoe, Heres a suggestion, drop the catacombs of nightmares so you are more vulnerable. I do understand where your coming from where you want to make your character like deadly smoke, where no one can touch him until you are willing to, but if you just drop the invulnerable facade, I'm sure that your character will be able to join without question :)

Now, I was wondering if I could acquire a weapon and an armor set for Jack after the split? because then, Jack would just be normal, which he wanted, but he still relishes a fight, and without the powers of Black, he would just be fisticuffs. Obviously I have to think up a weapon and armor with similar attributes to Black's powers, but fear not! I promise that they shall not be overpowered in any way and that I shall give a selection of weapons and armor in this post at a later date, just let me know if it is approved or not.
Also, Jack would gain these items after he is approached by a certain figure, it's a shadowy one, but more explanation later.
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